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Old 04-09-2016, 11:02 PM
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Naked people getting jiggy in front of the camera.

Good, bad, indifferent? Indispensable masturbatory aid or threat to society? Or both?

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In my opinion if they are approached with a learning desire it's ok...To watch some of the best in sex and learn from them...But other than that I think it is a threat if consumed often...It screws the mind and the soul and the persons sexual life... A person who watches often porn and masturbates is terrible in bad with a real human next to him... Other than educational purposes I would ban porn.
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You watch porn for educational purposes?😀😀😀

I have no problem with porn. A lot of people in the US have a weird hang-up when it comes to sex and sex related issues.

I don't think it ruins a person in the bedroom. Masturbation and sex with a partner are not the same thing. Kinda the difference between eating a turkey and eating a cardboard picture of a turkey.
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Educational purposes?

I remember the first time I had sex. For some reason, I didn't think about a porn video and say to myself, "Oh yeah, I need to do what that guy did."

If only I had. Maybe things would have gone better.
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You watch porn for educational purposes?������

I have no problem with porn. A lot of people in the US have a weird hang-up when it comes to sex and sex related issues.

I don't think it ruins a person in the bedroom. Masturbation and sex with a partner are not the same thing. Kinda the difference between eating a turkey and eating a cardboard picture of a turkey.
I don't think it's totally benign. But it's like a lot of things that are potentially harmful or addictive—if it's negatively affecting your life or interfering with your relationships, then it's not a good thing.

And if you're always eating cardboard turkey, you might not be hungry when your partner serves the real thing.
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I don't watch porn ...i did when I was 16,17 ... But I am self aware and I know that porn is not good for the communication with the person you like , for the all in all view of the outside world...A person becomes a perv... And in that if you look for something good it is to learn new poses,new moves ...
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When I was 16 or 17 porn was hard to get ahold of. There was no internet, and my family didn't have a VCR. Mostly you'd have to find or steal a magazine.
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Kristjan, I have new for you - porn is not educational. You will not learn how to have great sex by watching porn, more likely you'll get an inferiority complex.

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But it's like a lot of things that are potentially harmful or addictive—if it's negatively affecting your life or interfering with your relationships, then it's not a good thing.
I wasn't thinking so much of the harm ot might do the viewer, though there is the capacity for that. How about the people involved?

I have very mixed feelings on this. I used to work (peripherally) in the adult publishing industry, and I knew some of the girls who modelled for the magazines, and theirs were not usually happy lives.

On the other hand I masturbate, as I assume everyone else here does (though you're all being rather coy about it!!) and I enjoy erotic imagery either on my own or with my partner.
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You know that thing when you put two fingers in , the middle one and the ring finger ,but not all the way in , and you go up and down stimulating the G spot ? I didn't know that before I watched porn.... Also a man can learn something from James Dean ,how he watches deeply in the eyes,and not concentrating on his pleasure... In all porn can be inspirational to get better in bed.. But not all porn..and now I can say that I don't watch porn cause I really can't masturbate to it , I've tried , but my sex is better than the 98 % of the things I see ,so I see it as boring... It is interesting to see some new female ,the last I watched porn it was with Mia Khalifa ... She is amassing... I think women should LEARN from her...
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You were with Mia Khalifa and you wasted time watching porn? I'd have been making some.

And wyf, a lot of porn is very educational -- it teaches you what a girl looks like when she's doing something she really doesn't want to do.
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I wasn't thinking so much of the harm ot might do the viewer, though there is the capacity for that. How about the people involved?

I have very mixed feelings on this. I used to work (peripherally) in the adult publishing industry, and I knew some of the girls who modelled for the magazines, and theirs were not usually happy lives.
When I was interning one summer, I worked with this guy who was a photographer and videographer for a little while in California during the DVD porn boom. He said there were a lot of shady characters, probably organized crime guys somewhere up the food chain. A whole lot of drugs and sad people who went out to LA to become stars. He was disgusted by all of it. Of course, that was just one guy's take, and it all sounded a little cliche, so who knows.

But I don't know what kind of industry there is now. The cash cow of the porn industry, the DVD, is a thing of the past. What's online now is stuff pirated from the DVD days or it's really low budget or homemade and it's all free. I guess there's the webcam thing. When that first started, I think it was more entrepreneurial, with the girls working for themselves, but I don't know if it's still like that. If it's big business, I'm guessing there are probably women who are being exploited.

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On the other hand I masturbate
I've tried it with the other hand. It just feels a little awkward to me.

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I enjoy erotic imagery either on my own or with my partner.
My partner does NOT like it. We had the conversation before we were married, and as much as I tried to explain that it's just for the visual, you're not making comparisons or wishing you were with someone else, she doesn't buy it. She said she didn't like the way it made her feel, and I totally respect that. So my "erotic imagery" viewing days are long over.

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Human sexual pleasure is such a dirty term these days. Human nudity is frowned upon, unless it has "educational" or art value.

I ask, what other animal have you seen lately that wears cloth to cover genitalia?

Soon car and truck hanging "bull" gonads will be outlawed. (I don't own a pair of fake balls, btw)
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Did I say it wrong, Prodigalson? (Cause I don't joke here,on this side)
No, you said it right, Kristijan. I was being facetious.

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... I ask, what other animal have you seen lately that wears cloth to cover genitalia?
I have a feeling that the first loin cloths had more to do with not leaving little pieces of your willy behind while passing through bramble patches than any kind of sense of modesty or prudishness. And I imagine there have been times our four-legged friends have bemoaned their lack of opposable thumbs and the corresponding inability to weave a wee bit of cloth.

But yeah, we're the only critter that has a problem with climbing right on top of the old lady in the middle of Walmart and knocking over a few shelves of merchandise, giving her a good bonking, and personally, I think we're the worse for it.
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Human sexual pleasure is such a dirty term these days.
I don't know where you're getting that idea. From what I've seen, "these days" Americans are moving away from being quite as prudish as they have been traditionally. I think you see it reflected pretty much in all forms of entertainment. That doesn't mean some people aren't going to complain about and see it as a sign of moral collapse, but I think they're becoming the more vocal minority.

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Soon car and truck hanging "bull" gonads will be outlawed.
Heh. Do you think something like that would have even existed 10 or 20 years ago? I doubt it.

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Flipped the coin on me, eh Binx? Nicely done.
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porn is beyond reach
the amount of condoms used is out of control
and if it is not then the consequence is dire
either way it is out of control when it comes to staying sexually healthy
so yeah it is not a good thing at all.
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Flipped the coin on me, eh Binx? Nicely done.
Honest depictions of sexuality don't bother me. What annoys me these days are just crude things like those truck testicles.

For a long time, I resisted the idea of the general dumbing down of society, but it's getting harder to deny. All the crude humor is just another sign of it.

Look no further than the new Standard toilet ads that talk about splatter and clinging etc. and have the people heads coming up out of the toilet at the end.

The humor is 3rd grade level, and that they feel like they need to use it in the first place to get people's attention shows you where we're headed. Right down the crapper.

OK. Now get off my lawn.
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Look no further than the new Standard toilet ads that talk about splatter and clinging etc. and have the people heads coming up out of the toilet at the end.
Who pays these people to come up with such corny crap?

I can't agree more about television influence being a mind-bending, opinion-shaping tool.

OK. Now get off my lawn.
Oops. Did you plant grass seed or something?
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When I was interning one summer, I worked with this guy who was a photographer and videographer for a little while in California during the DVD porn boom. He said there were a lot of shady characters, probably organized crime guys somewhere up the food chain. A whole lot of drugs and sad people who went out to LA to become stars. He was disgusted by all of it. Of course, that was just one guy's take, and it all sounded a little cliche, so who knows.
I've been out of the fringes of the industry for a long time but that's how it was even then (early days of video - that's how old I am!) and I worked in the print side of things. The girls involved were sad, in so many ways. Once you get your tits out there are no other avenues of modelling left open to you, and markets were limited. Several worked as prostitutes in between assignments, there were a lot of drug issues, and I suspect little has changed. And although I worked for a supposedly reputable publisher, there were a lot of shady people in the background, and many parties I went to were a weird mix of underworld, dealers and low grade celebrities.

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But I don't know what kind of industry there is now....

If it's big business, I'm guessing there are probably women who are being exploited.
it is big business (did you know that the entire online commerce and payment thing was driven initially by the porn industry?) and I think we can be pretty sure that women are still being exploited. And men too, for that matter.

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My partner does NOT like it. We had the conversation before we were married, and as much as I tried to explain that it's just for the visual, you're not making comparisons or wishing you were with someone else, she doesn't buy it. She said she didn't like the way it made her feel, and I totally respect that. So my "erotic imagery" viewing days are long over.
One has to respect her point of view. My husband is a man and therefore by default enjoys it and I enjoy certain aspects and scenarios and we often use it as part of our playtime. And it's not unknown for me to check I out when on my own

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I've tried it with the other hand. It just feels a little awkward to me.
I feel so sorry for men! Your masturbatory options seem quite limited, whereas women have a variety of devices that buzz! And in an emergency there's always a banana or a candle nearby!!!
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When I run out of ways to pleasure myself, I lay on my arm until it goes to sleep and then pretend it's stranger-sex.

Works sometimes. Other times it's the horror of having my arm wake up midway and realizing, "Oh, my God! It's me!"
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Well today "the pussy" has it's twin in home "equipment" too...All you need is one glass, two sponges ,one rubber glove and lube...
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I don't even want to imagine Kristijan's masturbatory equipment.

Anyway all you really need is an active imagination.
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Oh , you don't need imagination to imagine this,here it is- http://youtu.be/_WVZiqegWzk
It is good a bit of new information isn't it wyf
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For a long time, I resisted the idea of the general dumbing down of society, but it's getting harder to deny. All the crude humor is just another sign of it.
Idiocracy has stopped being a comedy and is now officially a documentary.
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Just as a reference - the book in the Bible Song Of Solomon was at times verboten for unmarried to read.

As for myself I'm not a fan of pornography, but I put it in the classification of "If no-one is hurt in the making, specifically children and small animals, and if that's what helps you get through the night (or your lunch break), then ok."
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Idiocracy has stopped being a comedy and is now officially a documentary.
I'm not patting myself on the back. The so-called dumbing down has been accelerated by recent technology, but it's been happening for a long time.

Considering the whole, if you're still alive, you're probably not exempt from being part of it.
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Oh , you don't need imagination to imagine this,here it is- http://youtu.be/_WVZiqegWzk
It is good a bit of new information isn't it wyf
Uhh, I think I know what I'd say if I was at your place and you offered me a drink.

P.S. And that would be, has your penis ever been in this glass?

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