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Wow, 200 words are like-a lot! Thanks for sharing this with us, although many of them are used very rarely.

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many of them are used very rarely.
Well, now you have a chance to change that. :-)
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They aren't used rarely without good reason. If we use too many of these in a novel, it will put the reader off.
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You don't have to use all of them, certainly, but reading should expand one's knowledge, and vocabulary. I tend to use language I'm comfortable with, but if it sends someone scurrying to their dictionary, I reckon I've done them a favour.
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If we use too many of these in a novel, it will put the reader off.
Depends on the novel, depends on the reader, depends on you.

Not that I said anything to be taken seriously. Guess I'd better start using the graphic smilies, huh?
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Originally Posted by Lin View Post
Not that I said anything to be taken seriously. Guess I'd better start using the graphic smilies, huh?
People should communicate in emoticons. Anyone ever notice that the list of smilies available are mostly of the violent, gun-toting variety? I just thought I'd point that out.

Anyhow, I checked out the Mexican Slang 101 site in your siggy - it's hilarious! Is the site yours?
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Why thank you. Yeah, that's my cash cow there, I expostulated. Kind of fun little book. I've lost count of how many thousands I've sold over the years, I exaggerated.

I designed the site myself, he fawned. I enjoy web design more than writing anymore. I was born too soon, I histrionificated.



ever notice that the list of smilies available are mostly of the violent, gun-toting variety
Not really

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Whoa! I put those up from my personal collection, then took a look at the ones here. HOLY CATS! I thought I had some messed-up smilies. I LOVE the one where the guy blows the chicken up.

But yeah, it's a weird coolection for a site for writers, rather than, say, anarchist/punk serial school terrorists.

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Most of the emoticons are totally inappropriate to the site, she opined. We ought to have ones that shrug, scratch their heads, or just bloody write, she suggested. But I love that one in your last post, LIn, she gushed.
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Originally Posted by Lin View Post
I designed the site myself, he fawned. I enjoy web design more than writing anymore. I was born too soon, I histrionificated.

Not really
Web design rocks, she riposted.

I've been in print design for a while now, but ever so slowly learning how to make the transition to web. I still enjoy writing more, though. If I could quit my j-o-b tomorrow and do nothing but write, I would. That would be, umm, like winning the powerball lottery, except I'd probably still be broke.

Agreed, Q - what ever happened to the warm & fuzzy emoticons of yore?
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Gary made a good point. Though I use them too much in my stories, I try to refrain as much as possible. They are annoying, honestly.
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That would be, umm, like winning the powerball lottery, except I'd probably still be broke.
Variation on an old joke: What would you do if you won the lottery?
Just keep writing until the money ran out, I guess.
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I tend to avoid the repetition of 'saids' by describing what the character is doing before their next bit of dialogue for example:

Eric looked at Helen and smiled "It's good to see you looking so well"
She looked back at him angrily "No thanks to you!"
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I find it amazing how so many published books constantly use the word, "said". Not even my seventh grade class could get away with that, haha.
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Maybe it's because that's not a barricade to publishing. Therefore no more "getting away with it" than using commas.
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Originally Posted by starrwriter View Post
Good list, he said.
Lol! Priceless.
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Originally Posted by somesh View Post
It can be avoided altogether as well but sometimes, its better to give the expression

Slaith walked into the room and saw Krissy toying with his underwear.
"What do you think you are doing?", he demanded

"Err... I am sorry sir", she said trembling


IT kind of makes clear that Slaith didn't like what he saw
I try to avoid it as much as I can, but we all do it. Even what you wrote above, to me, is too cluttered. I think it would be better read as:

Slaith walked into the room and saw Krissy toying with his underwear. "What do you think you are doing?"

"Err... I am sorry sir", she said trembling

You still get to the point of Slaith being upset with what he walked in on, but you don't have to use "he demaned" to get there.
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I think variety is crucial. If a story has no dialog tags whatsoever, I'm confused. If a story uses nothing but 's/he said' I'm annoyed. (Invisible words can be used so much they become visible. Scary thought huh?) On the other hand, I'm even more annoyed if the author never uses 'said' because very visible words like demanded/growled/purred/breathed/whispered are twice as annoying when overused.

I think unique dialog tags should be treated like adverbs. Use them when they truly will add to the story, and there is no better way to show what's happening. They're kind of like jewels on a goblet. An emerald and ruby encrusted goblet is cool. A goblet hacked out of a gigantic diamond is both tacky and a waste of a diamond.

Just my two cents.
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When will people stop posting these excruciatingly mind-numbingly stupid lists?

Littering your work with a multitude of varied dialogue tags is the mark of the amateur trying to pretend to be a writer. It's also a sure-fire way to get yourself rejected (after the editor has stopped laughing) when you submit work.
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See my latest blog post, 101 Words To Use Instead of "The"
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Have you seen the new Writers Digest top 101 Words list?

The has dropped from 3 down to 9 on the list. Ocelot is still hanging in at 101.
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"I can't believe ejaculated isn't on your list", I...cried?
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Meanwhile, I just read a post on another forum where somebody is very earnestly telling the world that it's just deplorable to use anything other than "the invisible 'said'"
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Originally Posted by Lin View Post
Meanwhile, I just read a post on another forum where somebody is very earnestly telling the world that it's just deplorable to use anything other than "the invisible 'said'"

Ummm... that might've been me.
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"How dare you!" Q Wands cried.
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Well, I'M pretty shocked
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"But, why?" Devon questioned.
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Originally Posted by OnceUponATime View Post
Ummm... that might've been me.
Nah, more than likely me, said I
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'You're not guilty. I am,' she simpered.
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"I can't believe it was you," she gasped.
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