Originally Posted by Cityboy
If my short term memory is correct, you are the one who called me a "fraud" because your brain cannot conceive that something beyond the senses "does" exist.
It's funny how you re-imagined this. It's a good window into your self-deception and how your mind works in general. I didn't call you a fraud because of what you believe or my skepticism (which is simply based on a need for credible evidence).
I called you a fraud because you claim there is "room enough for everyone" -- until you come up against an opinion or belief that is different than yours.
Then it's "stupidity."
What Picklebottom said regrading ESP and "truth" was this:
Only because it is a field that has no implications or truth behind it.
I'll go out on a limb and speak for him.
Clearly, in this context, he is talking about evidence -- or lack of it. He went on to clarify that -- but you couldn't or wouldn't understand.
Again, that's what all this comes down to -- lack of evidence and a pure reliance on hearsay and anecdotes. And without evidence, the number of people who believe is irrelevant.
I would never claim that saying certain beliefs are comforting is clever or original. It's more like restating the obvious. But if you don't believe in God or the supernatural, then you're naturally going to look at the psychology behind the belief. It's not automatically a criticism -- and it's the same with ESP.
It's irrelevant to me that "tens of thousands" or whatever of people (or whatever number you pull our of thin air) study or believe in ESP. Why is it that no one can come up with even a simple demonstration that proves it exists? It's a "slap in the face" that I simply ask for credible evidence? Do you hear me saying, well, millions of people don't believe in ESP, so therefore it doesn't exist? No -- because it's a lame argument.
And I certainly never said anyone who has a supernatural experience is a "nutcase." I think people have powerful psychological reasons to believe -- and if it makes them feel better -- it makes no difference to me. Like I said, most people I know believe in something supernatural -- but they are rational and sensible in other aspects of their lives.
Again, I know you think this "forgiving" thing is a clever gotcha. That piece I wrote was about family and holding grudges based on past grievances and slights. It doesn't mean I shouldn't call you on all your nonsense.
And I call B.S. -- everything you say here -- every attempt to validate your beliefs with cut and paste quotations, every way that you misconstrue what people are saying -- even your belief that "I despise you" or that without "book knowledge," I'd be a "plain hole" shows that you are upset by anything or anyone that contradicts your beliefs. I seriously doubt you're fooling anyone.
So -- once again, you're wrong or confused on all points. Man, that seems like it would be exhausting.